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zilmar said:
What PC specs do you have?
Because I'm wondering if mine would do fine with LLE GFX?
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What PC specs do you have?
Because I'm wondering if mine would do fine with LLE GFX?
MI6CIA007 said:
very well put and maybe that's the way i should have put it.
please smiff don't be so defensive i'm just trying to understand all this. i am not a developer (as i'm sure aren't the majority of the donators) so of course i'm looking for improvements if i'm going the dish out money, and of course the OBVIOUS reason of helping the developers is always there.
SuperMario64
N64 Gamer
Very Nice.
Cant wait getting 1.7 running on my machine.
Cant wait getting 1.7 running on my machine.
Personally im a thrilled to hear about another LLE emulator
that makes 3 LLE n64 emulators in the works right now
as has been said before LLE emulates the hardware, if enough people help out, eventually a LLE emulator will allow full and perfect emulator of all games and demos ever made and on top of that, it will allow for improvement of some imperfections of the original hardware.
also LLE will improve HLE because better understanding of the hardware will lead to better ways to HLE the games.
im really looking forward to this
that makes 3 LLE n64 emulators in the works right now
as has been said before LLE emulates the hardware, if enough people help out, eventually a LLE emulator will allow full and perfect emulator of all games and demos ever made and on top of that, it will allow for improvement of some imperfections of the original hardware.
also LLE will improve HLE because better understanding of the hardware will lead to better ways to HLE the games.
im really looking forward to this
Trotterwatch
New member
A few more games that I noticed worked with this LLE;
Mia Hamms Soccer (I scored a goal on my first try
)
Michael Owens WLS 2000
^ Both the above work pretty well, albeit a tad slow on this 2ghz machine.
Indiana Jones also boots up the menus, the intro to the actual game complete with sound etc. In game doesn't work.
So as has been said, the LLE is another option not the main thing. HLE support is not going to be dropped.
Mia Hamms Soccer (I scored a goal on my first try
)Michael Owens WLS 2000
^ Both the above work pretty well, albeit a tad slow on this 2ghz machine.
Indiana Jones also boots up the menus, the intro to the actual game complete with sound etc. In game doesn't work.
So as has been said, the LLE is another option not the main thing. HLE support is not going to be dropped.
Smiff
Emutalk Member
i think people were overestimating the impact of integrated lle to users..
1) hle (which in pj64 has always been a mixture of hle and lle anyway.. we used to call it mle for medium level emulation) is already so good, who's going to want the estimated athlon 6000+ it would need, for no improvement in most situations?
2) there are significant problems integrating low level graphics processing with hardware rendering. (and using software rendering to do all the texture filtering etc.? maybe double the requirements again to Athlon 12000+ or something). until someone solves the conversion problems, it can't look very good. may not be possible - because of course hle gives the author much more control to make the output in the form he needs. once you do something in lle, you lose control, and you can't have it both ways.
and other reasons.. i don't think lle is the holy grail people seem to think, for n64 anyway. this is also why it was added almost as an afterthought (hey look, we can do lle) and was never a main concern. if it had been, people would have been releasing this before 2006..
sorry if people were expecting lle=all compat problems solved and probably some day there will be an accurate all software emulator but it's not going to be something that's "better" for most people.
yes, this has happened mainly because donations motivated zilmar to do something fairly major in the rsp core, so thanks donators. i think he was initially just trying to fix some difficult games.
1) hle (which in pj64 has always been a mixture of hle and lle anyway.. we used to call it mle for medium level emulation
) is already so good, who's going to want the estimated athlon 6000+ it would need, for no improvement in most situations?2) there are significant problems integrating low level graphics processing with hardware rendering. (and using software rendering to do all the texture filtering etc.? maybe double the requirements again to Athlon 12000+ or something). until someone solves the conversion problems, it can't look very good. may not be possible - because of course hle gives the author much more control to make the output in the form he needs. once you do something in lle, you lose control, and you can't have it both ways.
and other reasons.. i don't think lle is the holy grail people seem to think, for n64 anyway. this is also why it was added almost as an afterthought (hey look, we can do lle) and was never a main concern. if it had been, people would have been releasing this before 2006..
sorry if people were expecting lle=all compat problems solved and probably some day there will be an accurate all software emulator but it's not going to be something that's "better" for most people.
yes, this has happened mainly because donations motivated zilmar to do something fairly major in the rsp core, so thanks donators. i think he was initially just trying to fix some difficult games.
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Smiff said:i think people were overestimating the impact of integrated lle to users..
1) hle (which in pj64 has always been a mixture of hle and lle anyway.. we used to call it mle for medium level emulation
2) there are significant problems integrating low level graphics processing with hardware rendering. (and using software rendering to do all the texture filtering etc.? maybe double the requirements again to Athlon 12000+ or something). until someone solves the conversion problems, it can't look very good. may not be possible - because of course hle gives the author much more control to make the output in the form he needs. once you do something in lle, you lose control, and you can't have it both ways.
and other reasons.. i don't think lle is the holy grail people seem to think, for n64 anyway. this is also why it was added almost as an afterthought (hey look, we can do lle) and was never a main concern. if it had been, people would have been releasing this before 2006..
sorry if people were expecting lle=all compat problems solved and probably some day there will be an accurate all software emulator but it's not going to be something that's "better" for most people.
yes, this has happened mainly because donations motivated zilmar to do something fairly major in the rsp core, so thanks donators. i think he was initially just trying to fix some difficult games.
Your right about that, i personally believe that pc's will be fast enough to do lle n64 soon enough
there was a mostly LLE emulator for psx released recently, and it works great even on slower machines
madprofessor
zito oi penses
i think either lle or hle, pj64 is an excellent project
congrats to the authors
congrats to the authors
