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vampireuk said:Typical ignorance right there Eagle, you obviously know nothing about Bush aside from the fact that he messes up while speaking now and again, the fact is he is smarter than you. He is smarter than me, he is probably smarter than 99.9% of the members at emutalk. Form your own view of bush instead of listening what the moronic left has to say about him. You don't graduate from Yale by been a idiot, oh and Bush is also more intelligent than Kerry
For the sake of arguement, Kerry also graduated from Yale.
But then, Bush had his Daddy get him into the joint to begin with.
It reminds me of that FedEx commercial though: "Oh... you have an MBA. Here, let me show you...", as if having a degree from some place like Yale or Harvard means you're some frickin genius. It doesn't.
As for Bush's speaking ability, well, we don't want to "misunderstimate" him now, do we?
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vampireuk
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smegforbrain said:
Yes Kerry also graduated from Yale, but nobody is foolishly trying to question Kerry's intelligence. Bush graduated from Yale on his own merits, a degree does not make you a genious but you do have to be academically intelligent to gain one in the first place. Bush stumbles when speaking from a script in public as many people do, when talking from the heart he is a excellent speaker. If a degree is no proof of intelligence public speaking skills definately are not either.
ScottJC
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Heh, when did I mention bush in that last post? It wasn't just his decision to go to war with afganistan after all. I don't care if you think I sound like a 14 year old, you are british and so am I, neigher of us's opinions matter when it comes to the election in America, for that fact neigher of us truly know what would be best for America in the long run.vampireuk said:
Basing Bush's actions against the war on terror is no reason to elect someone president, any old coot could have done that and America would probably reacted somewhat the same to sep11th if Gore was in.
You're right, afganistan was a safe haven, but there are lots of places like that on the world, should we bomb them too?
You should see the movie Fahrenheit 9/11, it makes you think too... whether its right or not is another matter but i am not convinced that Bush should've won, I mean it was pretty damn obvisous that was fixed. Hence the reason I would rather have Kerry win, can't stand cheaters.
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Perhaps on most counts but I have a great fondness of America and keep myself up to date on issues over there and talk a lot about politics with like minded people in the US. So I do have more of a idea of what is best for America in the long run.
You could not be more mistaken, a strong leader in the face of terrorism is vital for the future of America at the moment. John Kerry is not qualified to command the US military, he has constantly cut the legs out from under the military while on the senate again and again.
I have no need to see that movie, Michael Moore does nothing but lie and twist stories to suit his own agenda. Explain how Bush cheated to win the election? The only way Gore could have won florida would have been through illegal counting of the ballots, victory at any cost huh?
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Naive because I don't agree with you? It is a well known fact (again) that Bush won Florida and that the only way Gore could have won it is through illegal means. Why don't you look at the facts instead of clinging onto your weak opinion that goes against all logic and truth.
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LaLLe said:No naive because u dont see the truth ... watch Fahrenheit 9/11 than we talk again and i´ll bet u will see things in different light than
So I only see the truth if I believe the spin and lies of a man who wants nothing more than to see Bush out of the whitehouse? I do my own research instead of letting a fat man tell me what to believe.
Under *most* Florida recount strategies, including the strategy proposed by Gore, Bush still carried the state. It was an admittedly slim lead, but a lead nonetheless.ScottJC said:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html
zAlbee
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AlphaWolf said:
"During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr. Bush's SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points lower than Al Gore's."
1206 on the SAT? Wow that blows. SAT was so easy. 1550 first try
Now anyway. An estimated 125 for bush (95%ile) vs. 120 for kerry (91%ile). i congratulate bush. They're both very close, considering IQ does not translate into auto-good-political-leading. But I wish I could see some more of this intelligence during the Iraq decision.
Sure. But you have to take the right standpoint in the first place, it doesn't matter how hard you stand by your decision, if it were wrong. Similarly, it's very easy to stand by a decision that is overwhelmingly viewed as "right". In that case, we would admire their strong stance, but really it was the good choice in the first place that we should admire.
I hope you see the point i'm trying to make here. Smarter decision >> unwavering decision. You may think that he's made all the right ones so far, but I don't. And what happens when one day Bush takes a stand that you do think is wrong? What then? Tell him to stay strong?
ScottJC
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Well, I suppose the cheating thing is neigher here nor there, nobody really knows if he did or not for sure, its just personal opinion that I think Al Gore should have won the election, regardless, bush is here now and me saying Al gore should've won won't change anything, the Supreme court ruled Bush president so legally he is president.
I honestly don't know, Kerry sounds like a turd and Bush sounds like a Douche, watch that new ep of south park and you'll get it... you've got to always choose between a turd and a douche... lol, the real question is, which is the lesser of two evils?
I honestly don't know, Kerry sounds like a turd and Bush sounds like a Douche, watch that new ep of south park and you'll get it... you've got to always choose between a turd and a douche... lol
, the real question is, which is the lesser of two evils?
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yup, 100% supported.vampireuk said:
quite right.
Problem is anti-saddam sentiment has died down over the years since Saddam committed those atrocities. Bad timing. Declaring open war was supposed to improve their image, show their strength, and show that they fight for principles. The support wasn't there, so at that point they should have gone to Plan B. Silently take out Saddam. It's been done before, to plenty of south american countries, and only the conspiracy theorists would cry out, and go ignored (vs. huge media fiasco of today). No harm done to self-image. it's ingenious really.
yeah, that's fucked up.
Really? Not counting a vast quantity of votes by minorities in a swing state that your brother runs, and having your campaign manager deny a recount was never in the constitution. And it's highly illegal, currupt and is the least democratic thing that has happened in this country in let's just round it off here: THE LAST 200 YEARS. Check your facts dude.Orkin said:
Boost his popularity here in this country. His approval soared here after he attacked afganistan. People here were blood thirsty after 911, and he went ahead and attacked some random country. I'll agree it was less random than Iraq, but he went ahead and blew any credibility by also attacking there with "shock and awe" no less, maiming and murdering thousands of innocent people that had already suffered greatly under the hands of Saddam, who his daddy, and his daddy's ex employer (reagan) had promoted and held in the position, despite an aggregious war criminal record including gassing whole villages of indiginous people (the kurds in the north). I don't think you know anything about it, or you wouldn't have even tried to open your mouth here. There are pictures of rumsfeld (GW's secretary of defence) SHAKING HANDS with saddam, the whole neoconservative group has such filthy hands across the board in dealing (and funding!) mass murderers that it is apalling. Here's a list of Bush Sr. CIA funded war criminals:Orkin said:
Saddam,
Norriega,
Bin Laden.
Bush's Dad (and reagan) are THE REASON all these global atrocities have taken place in the first place. You sleep with dogs, you get fleas, and that's what 911 was all about. That and the fact that we give isreal the weapons to exterminate muslims throughout the middle east, at will.
That is a HUGE myth.Orkin said:
You mean the same media (fox news) that is run by Bush's brother in law? You mean the same media that said Kerry doesn't deserve his war medals because he objected to the wholesale slaughter of indigenous people when he came back? The same media that blatantly tried to spin Bush as not a loser in the debates when he was left stuttering moronically on more than one occasion? What media are YOU watching? CSPAN? That's about the only place you can get ANY non right wing news in this country, and they don't spin anything at all, so it's pretty far from liberal.
Well, maybe not, but I think Halliburton has made ALOT of money. I think Halliburton has gotten all the oil, and they're gonna give it to us again at the pumps, just like they did last time (enron). The whole thing is so currupt and disgusting I can't believe anyone with a brain would even attempt to discuss it from another stand point.Orkin said:
Check again. It's called Guantanamo Bay. Prison photos in Iraq, mysteriously dead prisoners that had no trial, and were set on ice to show that they had died earlier than actuality for some reason? IF Bush is commander in chief the buck stops there, and he's broken the Geneva convention 20 fold. Not just in war prisoner's rights, but also in other ways like "Shock and Awe".Orkin said:
I hate to rip you a new one, as you have written a great plugin that I use and appreciate. But your political ignorance is a big part of why this country is no longer a democracy, and as I see it, you and others who support the current totalitarian regime are crapping on my grandparents (WW2 Vets, both of them) graves, as they fought real wars for real freedoms, and not simply money wars for increased economic control of oil by not even the US, but privately held companies like Halliburton and Enron that have proven track records of abusing the american populace as well.
And Vamp, you can quit attacking Kerry now. I believe I called him a vacous career politician. Any attacks on him do not change my factual criticisms of the current dictator of america, who really DOES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_act
hate freedom. And yeah, Kerry also voted for the patriot act, so he's also a traitor to this country and what my relatives have died for, he's just currently a less successful threat, as he hasn't faked an election and sent dozens of inner city kids to their deaths for his buddy's currupt energy corporation (yet). I do believe that if he is elected he will do about the same thing, though.
This is a great bit of Rush Limbaugh rebroadcast. The facts remain on Florida: Huge numbers of legitimate voters were kept from the polls. Ballots were hidden or thrown away. A recount was denied by a former Bush campaign manager. The Supreme court that was largely put in by Bush/Reagan also denied a recount. Most likely Gore would've won Florida, if there had been a legal and DEMOCRATIC election process, which plainly there wasn't.vampireuk said:
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