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a good controller for use with project 64

L11

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As i the title say im looking for a controller that will let me have the same sort of lay out as the 64.

Any help is great.
thanks.
 

The_Z

"The_A"
An adaptoid.
Other than that, get a gaming controller. The Saitek Rumble Force controller works great for me.
 

Toasty

Sony battery
I use a Saitek P880 and it works well for most emulators. It has six buttons above the right analog stick, as opposed to the traditional four, so on PJ64 I can use 2 for the A and B buttons and the other four for the C buttons. No rumble though, so if that's important to you, go for something else. The only thing I don't like about it is that there is only one pair of L/R triggers, but since a second pair is so rarely used (only on a few PSX games) I can live without them.
 

wetdirtmud

Windows x64 User
I actually went out and spent $45 for an Xbox360 controller. It's usb and works pretty well with N64 games. Reminds me of an old controller that I used to have called the 'Handicap' controller.

The only 1 problem I find with it is the second control stick acts like the C-Buttons.
 

Milkrosoft

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wetdirtmud said:
I actually went out and spent $45 for an Xbox360 controller. It's usb and works pretty well with N64 games. Reminds me of an old controller that I used to have called the 'Handicap' controller.

The only 1 problem I find with it is the second control stick acts like the C-Buttons.
The problem you are having with the control stick can be easily changed and the stick can be reconfigured. Are you using Nrage's Input plugin 2 1.83? If not, you should switch to that.

The problems I noticed with the Xbox 360 controller are that the left and right triggers act as the positive and negative valuse of the "z-axis" so when both triggers are pushed, it is registered as neutral and neither button works. The rumble feature does not work and the center button does not light up to display which controller number it is. I hear Microsoft is working on fixing this in some XInput update.
 

Luc

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Milkrosoft said:
The problem you are having with the control stick can be easily changed and the stick can be reconfigured. Are you using Nrage's Input plugin 2 1.83? If not, you should switch to that.

The problems I noticed with the Xbox 360 controller are that the left and right triggers act as the positive and negative valuse of the "z-axis" so when both triggers are pushed, it is registered as neutral and neither button works. The rumble feature does not work and the center button does not light up to display which controller number it is. I hear Microsoft is working on fixing this in some XInput update.

I'm hoping someone comes out with a modified driver that's compatible under DirectX (and have rumble support). I like the smaller shape of the new controller.

I still use now the 'super joybox 10' to attach 2 Xbox controllers on 1 usb port. Works perfect for me and has full support incl. rumble (no messy batteries like N64). The controllers are now also pretty cheap.
 

chris1970au

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Hi all, I'm using Project64 but I want to use an N64 controller, without an adapter, to play the games via my USB port, the problem I have is the USB cord has 5 wires red, black, white, green and bare/ uncovered, and the N64 controller cord only has 3 wires red, black and white, is it possible to connect the two safely???

thanks for any help! :)
 
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chris1970au

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Sorry mate, but I don't have and won't get a credit card just to buy an adapter when I think i can just connect them together somehow, i have connected the the red, black and white wires, leaving the green and bare wires, taped up of course and plugged it into my usb port and it said windows doesn't recognise the device, saying it has malfunctioned, I'm pretty sure it can be done, i'm just not sure how, that's why i've asked in here, hoping to get some help!
Thanks
 

flinto

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I have experiance in making controller adaptors to fit a PC, via USB and parrallel port.

You have no chance using a N64 controller on a USB without a lot of knowledge. Do you know anything about integrated circiuts? Do you know how to programme IC chips, and do you know which IC chips need programming?

Yes it is possible, no I can't tell you how but I do know that there is a book about imputting via the USB port. I think Maplin sells it, if your in the UK.

Imputting via the USB port is not straight forward. You have to convert one sett of instructions (from the N64 pad) to a sett that is compatable with the USB standard. This can only be done using specific integrated circuits that have to be programmed by you.

It is certainly not straight forward. It is something I have thought about doing, and I have done similiar projects successfully (but very much simpler ones) with standard Atari and SNES pads. I plan to do Sega Megadrive one as well, but N64 is much more complex.
 
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chris1970au

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Thanks for your reply, bugger, now i'm gonna have to put it back the way it was... :( and it looks like i'll have to go to TAFE and do an Electronics class, lol, so your saying even if the USB cord only had 3 wires and the same colour as the N64's wires it still wouldn't work??? because of the programming or the IC chips??? i'm sooo confused, lol :(
 
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flinto

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The colour of the wires has very little to do with it.

The N64 controller has three wires, because it is powered by the N64. One is +ve, and one is -ve and the other is data.

The signal sent from the N64 pad to the N64 is a coded signal which needs to be decoded into a singal that USB port can understand.

If you interested in purusing this, I would recommend you start with an easy project such as the SNES, I can send you the circuit diagram to connect 4 snes controllers to a standard parallel port. I use mine all the time. It only works with official controllers, as non official ones seem to work differently.
 
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chris1970au

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Thanks anyway, but it seems too difficult and expensive to me, cause i'd have to buy all the necessary bits and pieces not to mention the proper tools etc... :(
I can't read or have any idea how to understand a circuit diagram of anything, thanks anyway, lol :)
 
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